diff --git a/Modules/ModLogs/ModLogs_Messages.cs b/Modules/ModLogs/ModLogs_Messages.cs
index c6859e2..7f1714b 100644
--- a/Modules/ModLogs/ModLogs_Messages.cs
+++ b/Modules/ModLogs/ModLogs_Messages.cs
@@ -13,6 +13,7 @@ internal partial class ModLogs {
     private async Task HandleDelete(Cacheable<IMessage, ulong> argMsg, Cacheable<IMessageChannel, ulong> argChannel) {
         const int MaxPreviewLength = 750;
         if (argChannel.Value is not SocketTextChannel channel) return;
+        
         var conf = GetGuildState<ModuleConfig>(channel.Guild.Id);
         if ((conf?.LogMessageDeletions ?? false) == false) return;
         var reportChannel = conf?.ReportingChannel?.FindChannelIn(channel.Guild, true);
@@ -71,6 +72,7 @@ internal partial class ModLogs {
         var channel = (SocketTextChannel)newMsg.Channel;
         var conf = GetGuildState<ModuleConfig>(channel.Guild.Id);
         
+        if (newMsg.Author.IsBot || newMsg.Author.IsWebhook) return;
         var reportChannel = conf?.ReportingChannel?.FindChannelIn(channel.Guild, true);
         if (reportChannel == null) return;
         if (reportChannel.Id == channel.Id) {
diff --git a/Services/EntityCache/MessageCachingSubservice.cs b/Services/EntityCache/MessageCachingSubservice.cs
index 8346da6..5c54f1a 100644
--- a/Services/EntityCache/MessageCachingSubservice.cs
+++ b/Services/EntityCache/MessageCachingSubservice.cs
@@ -17,13 +17,14 @@ class MessageCachingSubservice {
         // This event is fired also when a link preview embed is added to a message. In those situations, the message's edited timestamp
         // remains null, in addition to having other unusual and unexpected properties. We are not interested in these.
         if (!arg2.EditedTimestamp.HasValue) return Task.CompletedTask;
+        if (arg2.Author.IsBot || arg2.Author.IsWebhook) return Task.CompletedTask; // we don't log these anyway, so don't pass them on
         return AddOrUpdateCacheItemAsync(arg2, true);
     }
 
     private async Task AddOrUpdateCacheItemAsync(SocketMessage arg, bool isUpdate) {
         //if (!Common.Utilities.IsValidUserMessage(arg, out _)) return;
         if (arg.Channel is not SocketTextChannel) return;
-        if (arg.Author.IsWebhook) return; // do get bot messages, don't get webhooks
+        if (arg.Author.IsBot || arg.Author.IsWebhook) return; // do not get messages from an automated source
         if (((IMessage)arg).Type != MessageType.Default) return;
         if (arg is SocketSystemMessage) return;